Drawing cartoons with the controversial Musulman “prophet†Muhammad is not a new activity. Have no illusions about the sudden religious Muslim sensitivity. The Muslim powerbrokers are proceeding just one step further to gain full protection of the European law. If they win now nobody will be able to criticize Islam as a religious or political doctrine. Nothing happens in the Muslim world spontaneously. There is always some sinister group of people who plan, pay expenses press buttons and unleash their hounds when the time is ripe.
Well before the Danish cartoonists, who probably by now wished to be somewhere safe in Israel, various artists depicted Muhammad probably thousands of times. Initially it was the Persian and Turkish Muslim artists. Muhammand was depicted also by Western artists before. The cartoon below was actually copied from one of the Islam on Line pages some six months ago.
Why wasn’t the Muslim fury released then (apart from some mild whining from Islam on Line)?Â
How come Islam On Line actually published a caricature of Muhammad - isn’t it an obvious sacrilege?
And why, oh why wasn’t the blasphemous Sheikh Yussef al-Qaradawi (this dude runs Islam on Line) punished by stoning or something even more appropriate.
And just look at this cartoon. This was created and published by no one else but by the most famous cartoonist, immortal Gary Larson.
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Did anybody notice the sacrilege? Did anybody remember to throw a massive international tantrum then?
 Nope.
There was only silence.
One of our great visitors, Tazde, Â posted this comment, which adds another angle to the whole Muslim cartoon tantrum saga:
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They definitely have a political need of REAL ACTION to smokescreen what really is happening. Iran has cancelled economic contracts with all the countries who had published the drawings or showed their support. They are in conflict with the UN as to their nuclear program. Their mad dog president cannot get the sandal off his mouth. After calling for the destruction of Israel he called the shoa a hoax. Dyslexia?
Syria burns embassies. The French embassy was saved with watercannons whereas the swedish embassy was destroyed. Wait a minute, what has Sweden to do with all of this? Whatever, they areprotesting to their syrian ambassador telling him that his country had failed to protect the diplomatic body as is supposed to. Syrians are also about to face charges of the assasinations of Libanese politicians. They definitely have a political need of REAL ACTION to smokescreen what really is happening.Â
Saudi Arabia seems to be proud of being the leader of this gang of idiots. A provocation well carried out, lots of hatred evoked and to be channeled.
The French Musulmans seem to be a problem. Instead of getting out to the streets burning cars as the tradition would have it, the have established a group of lawyers to see what legal action could be taken against the blaspheming media. LEGAL action? Musulmans? “L’exception françaiseâ€.
Still the world media seems not to have understood what the question is about. How they have been manipulated and how the illiterate mob has been used. The nazis did not teach us anything?
Great find Felis. Thank you for bringing it to our attention that there have been many cartoons which have poked fun at Mohammad before. Can we publish more of such cartoons?
Comment by Skylark — February 5, 2006 @ 7:36 pm
Definitely on the same wave length here mate!
This sudden “insult” and the resultant mayhem are not happening by pure chance.
As I posted earlier, it’s a very well orchestrated campaign that utilises the “Muslim as victim” formulae.
Make no mistake, WESTERNER. Islam has examined our societies and has spotted what it thinks of as flaws and weaknesses and many contemporary Muslim are sophisticated and savvy enough to use our systems and freedoms against us.
These “weaknesses” and “flaws” are actually based in the tolerance, decency, humanity and dignity of our societies. Things that are of no consequence to Allah. A tyranny such as Islam can manipulate these traits to its own ends and purposes, which is what we are seeing all over Europe today.
In all our Judeo-Christian Anglo-European cultures, these days, we have our very own quizzling traitors who despise the very things that made us great, and are dismantling the frame-work piece by piece.
To us, they are not flaws, rather the ebb and flow of freedom of expression.
Islam sees these as opportunities, to be exploited.
Islam is not yet in positions of total control in Europe, but it has gained massive influence. They were aided and abetted by traitors, who still continue to push the same post-modern, humanist garbage that has eroded a lot of the former greatness and strength of our culture - those who are so politically correct that black and white are no longer discernible.
Islam has no need of the milk-sop, smarmy sweetness many left-wingers are devoted to. Islam is a tyranny.
But Islam will use that attitude to advance itself.
Islam will take your gentle, understanding, tolerant approach and steal your country. They KNOW what they are doing.
Wake up. The enemy has stormed the walls and breached the defences like the Trojan Horse of old.
Comment by Gravelrash — February 5, 2006 @ 7:45 pm
Guys,
I bet’ya S1.00 (which is a lot for me) that not a single of our Musulman visitors will make much fuss about these two cartoons.
What’dya think?
And you know why?
Their mind controlling muftis haven’t learn’t about these pics yet and did not issue fatwas to get “upset”.
Comment by Felis — February 5, 2006 @ 7:52 pm
An Australian sheikh is begging the Australian media not to publish the ‘offending’ cartoons. Apparently NZ has go in first.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18047669%255E1702,00.html
And yes, Felis, next Friday will be let’s get all supset ‘ day because the imams will be on rocketfuel by then
Comment by Skylark — February 5, 2006 @ 8:03 pm
Skylark,
The first cartoon with the two well built ladies being introduced by Muhammad (PBUH) to those two youg mujahadeen caused a bit of a storm in Toronto, Canada. The local Muslim community could not believe that the prophet would give those brave lads only reconditioned virgins.
He only chose what was available.
Comment by Felis — February 5, 2006 @ 8:11 pm
I am sure there are more fun-Mohammad cartoons by Gary Larson lurking away somehere.
Comment by Skylark — February 5, 2006 @ 8:15 pm
They get upset with cartoons and we get upset with (courtesy of John Burtis of Canada Free Press)
“… televised beheadings, kidnappings, the bombings of weddings and tourist destinations, improvised explosive devises designed to kill indiscriminately, Fatwas and calls for mass murder by imams and commoners alike, the trampling of human and civil rights across their sphere of influence, the traffic in human slavery, public executions and other sordid goings on.
And thanks to the like of al-Jazeera, these lurid clips are routinely brought into our homes for our viewing pleasure. In our slippers, with the kids in bed, with a beer and chips on a side table, and with the use of TiVo we can discern the latest in the techniques employed in Islamist slaughter, judge them for their degree of difficulty, note the wry camera angles, discern the growing abilities of the producers, gape at the latest habiliments of the executioners and delight in the many replays of a deft beheading.”
…cartoons are really small fry compared with the above…
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/burtis020406.htm
Comment by Skylark — February 5, 2006 @ 8:45 pm
Skylark -that “plea” from the Sydney Imam is right on cue. I noticed Waleed Ali has just returned from the Haj, (he had a make-me-sick “article” about his Haj experience in the SMH today) so the key players are in place, and Waleed will be full of piss and wind fresh from Mecca.
This is the next round in the Oz cultural redefinition.
If no Australian newspaper intended printing the cartoons before this, I suspect they will be falling over themselves to be the first now.
And that is the desired result, after all. I’d call them idiots, but I smell a deeper agenda.
One more opportunity to present the case for the innocent victim, the Australian Muslim, so misunderstood…..same old, same old.
But I am certain that the “average Aussie” has run out of tolerance for them and their bullshit.
Which is something we need to be cautious about.
When the “gentle” hand no longer works for them, the taqiyya and kitman, and the disgusting obessiance, it has always been the sword next.
If this campaign does not achieve satisfactory results, I have no doubt there are enough of them itching to unveil Stage 2.
It is fire season!
Comment by Gravelrash — February 5, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
hi ppl i hope you are feeling good when you see muslims offended by disrespecting their prophet….!!!!!!!! if losing the sence of respect is the meaning of freedome in your countries then i dont think that we want to learn from you the profesional way of being journalists i prefare as muslim to see the objective and postive way of expressing and building a healthy and warm rolations with the west not offensive ways and here i was very astonished to see that the western world still mixing between real Islam and terourism
despite every thing im very sorry about what happened in some of the embassies in Syeria and Libanon.
open your minds dont be biased
Comment by eman — February 6, 2006 @ 1:31 am
It seems that burning down “offending” embassies is a rational action by whoring ’slammers who no doubt have been paid handsomely (by their standards) to be “true believers and address their feigned anger at the prophet images shown in his “true light?”
This Arab “one-upsmanship” has always been their reaction du jour …
Do the local firemen have water … or petrol in their hoses?
What will their course of action be when the mullahs get “their” bomb?
Comment by SA — February 6, 2006 @ 2:17 am
Remember if we do not fight for our freedoms then we deserve to loose them. Today it is the cartoons tommorow it will be books. Then it will be sites like Free Republic and Front Page Magazine. Then it will be our blogs.
Our freedoms are only as good as our dedication to protect them.
Comment by Beakerkin — February 6, 2006 @ 3:34 am
Yes, Eman. You are definitely right. You have had your chances to build the Muslim society where no-one would offfend you, you could live peacefully with your world-view and religion without the slightest fear of getting offended.
What has come out of this?
I mean, you cannot blame the lack of resources, certainly not of intelligence or effort.
It is just that instead of living in the islamic societies, developing them, fighting ignorance and stupidity, the betteroff moslems take off to benefit of the Western welfare.
The ideology, the religion is nothing as long as bowels are growling for food!
Once you’ve filled your stomach and thanked Allah for the meal the degenerate Western society provided for you and your family you start thinking about wasy how this marvellous, prosperous and welcoming society could be insulted and harmed.
Why is it that the Moslem countries cannot feed their poor, defend the wronged, treat the sick?
If the religion is such a marvellous resource, why do you not use it and make your countries habitable?
Why so many muslims leaving their countries to face their everyday with infidels -they have made the choice knowing the facts?
is is that a couple of warm meals per day beats the daylights out off all the marvels off Q’Uran paradise?
How come I have not seen people storming to moslem countries for better living…are they ignorant or just..hungry?
Comment by tazde — February 6, 2006 @ 6:08 am
That picture of Udai and Qusai reminded me of
Sir Bomb a Lot’s
Baby Got Burka - aka the The Udai and Qusai Ode to the 72 virgins. Here’s a portion.
*rap*
I like big burkas and I can not lie
You other splodeydope brothers can’t deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a burka on your face
You get sprung
Wanna pull up tough
Cuz you notice that burka was stuffed
Deep in the burka she’s wearing
I’m hooked and I can’t stop staring
Oh, baby I wanna get with taqqiya
And take your picture
My radical homeboys tried to warn me
But that burka you got
Make Me so angry
Well use me use me cuz you aint that average martyr groupy
I’m tired of magazines
Saying burkas are the thing
Take the average jihadi man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So Fellas (yeah) Fellas(yeah)
Has your girlfriend got the burka (hell yeah)
Baby got burka
Baby got burka
Baby got burka
Baby got burka
Comment by Elmers Brother — February 6, 2006 @ 6:11 am
Some mullahs wanna play that “hard” role
And tell you that the butt ain’t gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So the koran says you’re fat
Well I ain’t down with that!
‘Cause your waist ain’t small and your face is hidin’
And I’m thinkin’ bout ridin’ that ample arse their chidin’
What chu’ mean Willis?
(arm crossed wit’ frown … hmmm…..)
Comment by SA — February 6, 2006 @ 7:22 am
that’s great SA
Comment by elmers brother — February 6, 2006 @ 7:37 am
Eman:-
Welcome. If you truly understand the subtleties and nuances of the free exchange of ideas, then you will continue to have a voice here and be heard. But this site will not be open to you to propagandise.
Please understand, we am NOT ignorant of Islam or the Koran, and so my comments come from a position of some considerable knowledge. I am also well-versed in the history and achievements of the combined Judeo-Christian world. (I lived in S.E.Asia for 10 years, amongst Muslims, so I am not myopic, either.)
That is the “background” of my reply to you, and sets the tone. The written word cannot communicate emotion or attitude well, so I feel I must state:
I really DO want to have a dialogue with you. I do not intend to resort to propaganda, rhetoric… or insult. Will you offer the same?
You asked if “we” were “feeling good when you see muslims offended by disrespecting their prophet….!!!!!!!!”
In light of the many, many thousands - yes, thousands - of “insults” to my culture, my beliefs, my nations sovereignty, my freedoms, which have resulted in mayhem and death, then yes, there is some satisfaction in watching your less educated “brothers” demonstrate their intolerance, ignorance and rabid hate. They prove our point for us, which must cause moderates like you to question THEM, surely?
I have seen the cartoons. First, they are very amatuerish and not very good. Secondly, to a western eye well used to the art of the cartoonist, they show no disrespect to anyone, but reflect the tradition of satire, which springs from free speech, something NOT available in most Islamic nations.
The cartoonist is limited. They have ONE drawing to summarise everything they wish to say, and showing Mohamed with a bomb in the turban….. is an analogy. Do you not understand that?
Who cannot draw some connection between Mohamed and modern Muslims?
Who cannot draw some connection between modern Muslims and terrorism?
I know YOU are not a terrorist (I hope) but how many terrorists are Muslim? The latest count of atrocities commited in the name of Islam is around the 4,500 mark, since 9/11. Remember, we in the West are aware of EACH and EVERY ONE of those murders. WE know.
Moderate Muslims claim Islam has been misconstrued by those terrorists, but they are Muslims and they DO COMMIT murder in Mohameds name, don’t they?
A drawing, poor as it is, which attempts to make the connection, is therefore not provocative, but truthful.
I would point out to you MY critique of those cartoons. I didn’t like them because they stated the obvious.
It is now fairly well established fact that an Imam from Denmark used fabricated and unpublished cartoons to incite this rage in Syria and Lebanon.
Do you understand that?? The cartoons used to incite these CRIMES were never published in Denmark. In fact, the only people who seem to have seen them are Muslim clerics.
Do you begin to see why we do not trust that these demonstrations are anything other than politically motivated riots, having little to do with an “insult” to your prophet and a whole lot more to do with POWER??
But this is all a bit off-track, really. The issue is a sense of proportion. Do you not see how these outrageously over-the-top reactions to some simple, rudimentary drawings makes Islam look, in the eyes of the West. You CLAIM to be a religion of peace, with peaceful intent, but we NEVER see this. What we see is burning buildings, beheaded hostages, exploding bodies.
Is this going to show us anything other than that Islam is NOT peaceful? THINK, man!
“if losing the sence of respect is the meaning of freedome in your countries then i dont think that we want to learn from you the profesional way of being journalists”
We are not journalists - we are concerned citizens with no journalistic background at all. I am a language teacher, for example, and I have taught literally hundreds of Muslim students.
“i prefare as muslim to see the objective and postive way of expressing and building a healthy and warm rolations with the west not offensive ways”
This is an admirable attitude that brings great credit to you. I would hope you are typical, not a minority.
Please understand Emam, this next sentence is NOT me being satirical or trying to offend you. It is a serious question, which I would like you to seriously consider.
Can you see that EVERYTHING Islam has been doing these past few years is an insult to “us” and that NOT ONE action of Islam can possibly be seen as building warm relations?? NOT ONE.
In many “westerners” all Islam has produced is fear and mistrust; amongst others,like the bloggers here, it has produced a determination that that sort of behaviour, WHATEVER THE REASON, will never be tolerated or accepted in our societies??
Why should we open our hearts and doors to you? WHY? What do we owe you?
“and here i was very astonished to see that the western world still mixing between real Islam and terourism”
What option do we have when we see the hatred your people direct at us, over the slightest occurences and the most mundane issues? You will have to forgive us if “we” interpret everything that happens, like this, as an excuse, and indicative of a determination to dominate us, not to establish “warm relations”.
I hope you can see, Emam, that from our perspective, Islam has the responsibility.
Europe, America (and Australia) have never “reached out” to Islam for help. Our experience is that Islamic people arrive in our countries, in droves, wanting the benefits of life in our cultures and economies, and then proceed to demand we turn our countries into the same tyrannical, despotic serfdoms YOU escaped from.
The responsibility is YOURS, Islam. We do not need you. WE did not seek you out. You have nothing to offer, and only one commodity to sell. By your mass migration to our shores you prove that you need us.
We will not change. Can Islam????
“despite every thing im very sorry about what happened in some of the embassies in Syeria and Lebanon.
open your minds dont be biased”
I suggest there are a few Syrians, Lebanese, Iranians etc, who need to open their minds, before we would consider them civilised enough to open discussions with them.
Reasonable, mate?
Comment by Gravelrash — February 6, 2006 @ 8:31 am
LOL
:oops: “WE am not ignorant”
No suh! I don be igerint, I be a English teacher!
Comment by Gravelrash — February 6, 2006 @ 8:34 am
grav awesome summary of the way a lot of us feel
Comment by elmers brother — February 6, 2006 @ 9:02 am
Sarge,
You know the answer well.
Petrol is so much cheaper than water in those parts of the world.
Only human blood is cheaper than petrol.
Comment by Felis — February 6, 2006 @ 9:05 am
Beak,
“Our freedoms are only as good as our dedication to protect them.”
I’d rather spend my time reading books and playing with my cats.
And then the Muslims try to tell me how to live my sinful life.
Is there a choice?
Comment by Felis — February 6, 2006 @ 10:15 am
Felis,
Great find! I may have to link to this piece later this week.
As I’ve suspected all along
The mullahs are promoting this. And why not? After all, the Western media showed great dhimmitude in their coverage of the Paris riots and the Australian fracas.
This cartoon jihad, or whatever you want to call it, is showing where the line is drawn. If the West knuckles under, what’s next? The art galleries, many of which contain works of Western art, works which are clearly not Islamic?
Comment by Always On Watch — February 6, 2006 @ 11:48 am
“hi ppl i hope you are feeling good when you see muslims offended by disrespecting their prophet….!!!!!!!! ”
We couldnt care less about your prophet. Muslims do not respect our ways and beliefs, why should we respect yours?
You seem to forget, this is a one way street. There are not hordes of Westerners waiting to escape to the Islamic world in seach of a better way of life - the traffick is one way only.
If you cant live with our customs, our belief in freedom of speech, and our Christian religion, then may I humbly suggest that you go to live in the Islamic paradise of your choice?
On your way, you could perhaps study some of vile Nazi-type cartoons coming from Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries. You talk about ‘being offended’?
You make me laugh.
Comment by Dee — February 6, 2006 @ 12:04 pm
Dee,
Great response!
Comment by Always On Watch — February 6, 2006 @ 1:04 pm
AOW,
And the mullahs know very well how to play our MSM.
Well, in fact they even diodn’t have to try very hard as these leftie aresehole always side with the enemy of their enemy (us).
Dee,
I share your sentiment - “We couldnt care less about your prophet.”
Prophet who?
Comment by Felis — February 6, 2006 @ 1:36 pm
“There are not hordes of Westerners waiting to escape to the Islamic world in seach of a better way of life - the traffick is one way only”
Yes, Dee this brings up some basic factualquestions
What are the numbers of people migrating to Muslim countries?
Another question - why do Muslim people migrate to non-Muslim countries? If there is war or a difficult situation in one Muslim country - why haven’t Muslims migrated to another Muslim country?
Any answers out there……?
Comment by Skylark — February 6, 2006 @ 2:27 pm
Answers???? From the Koran and it’s adherents??? You expect too much Skylark.
Comment by Gravelrash — February 6, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
Skylark - the answer is that Muslims know damn well in their hypocritical hearts that no Islamic country comes within a mile of the West in any way. A great part of their ranting and raving is due to this knowledge, and to their resentment and jealousy that they are dependent on us for so much.
If you doubt this, ask a Muslim, “Where are your great artists, composers, writers and thinkers? Where are your scientists and philosophers? Where are your great inventors? In fact, please explain exactly the contribution made by Islam to humanity”.
There will be a resounding silence, or cries of ‘racism’, ‘Muslim hater’.
But who cares.
The facts, senora, they speaka for themselves!!
Comment by Dee — February 6, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
Tazde and Grav,
I really appreciate you comments.
I don’t think there would a need to add anything else here.
Sarge and EB,
Have you thought about getting a rap duo started?
Can you think of a right name for this group?
Comment by Felis — February 6, 2006 @ 6:11 pm
I hear you signorina Dee - the factas sure speaka for themaselvas
Here is an interesting peice on the whole sorry mess from the Wall St Journal
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007925
Comment by Skylark — February 6, 2006 @ 7:49 pm
Ya’all have a kick-ass site and provide great insight and information. Grav….nice summary on #16
Another question - why do Muslim people migrate to non-Muslim countries? If there is war or a difficult situation in one Muslim country - why haven’t Muslims migrated to another Muslim country?
Look at Europe now.
Comment by Joe Gringo — February 7, 2006 @ 8:50 am
Just call me MC Dhimmi
MC AJ (anti-jihad)
MC EB cuz for shizzle I be in the house
Comment by elmers brother — February 7, 2006 @ 5:14 pm
I went to the rap star name generator and it gave me the name “TOO G” ???? and T-Dog.
Comment by elmers brother — February 7, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
EB,
Love it!
I can manage you guys and we split the millions.
Comment by Felis — February 7, 2006 @ 5:57 pm
Joe,
Ya’all have a kick-ass site and provide great insight and information
Thank you very much.
We always enjoy you comments.
BTW your site is great - I love it!!
Comment by Felis — February 7, 2006 @ 6:34 pm
SA do you want to be TOO -G or T-dog?
Felis, what percentage do you have in mind? Don’t forget the jizya tax.
Comment by elmers brother — February 8, 2006 @ 6:00 pm
Bro,
I am a modest man, I settle for 50%
good you mentioned jizya - make it 60%.
And remember guys, my fee might be lookin a bit steep but it is you who are going to have all the fun (me, work and no play).
Comment by Felis — February 8, 2006 @ 6:38 pm
I think it’s steep because I won’t be getting any groupies (too old, fat and bald…my wife says I’m not that bald). So to even it out and to make up for my lack of GQness I suggest you think about a much lower fee. Perhaps you would take your percentage in goods… a few goats or sheep? Lord knows we got plenty of goats to go around.
Comment by elmers brother — February 9, 2006 @ 12:47 am
just a note for you to get your facts straight - the cartoon published at islamonline.net with the virgins had a random sheikh (which it even says in the article), NOT Muhammad. Free exchange of ideas is fine, but at least be accurate with your information.
Comment by Lena — February 26, 2006 @ 7:34 pm
Lena,
When a cartoonist wishes to present Christian heaven the old man he draws at the Gate will be ST Peter not a random saint.
When he wants to show Muslim paradise the old man at the gate will always be Muhammad not a RANDOM Sheikh.
This is how cartoonist work - universal symbols etc.
Besides.
My whole point was that this old fart Qaradawi opted not to get offended over cartoons depicting Muhammad.
Get your fact right indeed.
You must be from Canada.
Comment by Felis — February 26, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Islam is satanic view, Quran is a satanic words.
Please read Bible, Bible is Word of God
Comment by Hakkeem — February 27, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
maybe that was too much, thats why muslim around the world reacted so much…. But what about the christian and jews? the muslim they dont respect them too. For me its a piece of caricatures. What about the Americans they killed in Iraq…. They are traitors…. They stabbed people on their back… What about jesus christ and the images of Jesus christ that they published in their newspaper? I dont know what to say…. What about the beheaded Filipino contract workers that they killed them before proven guilty… They are piece of shit!
Comment by ann — March 25, 2006 @ 7:52 pm
Ann,
You are from Philippines so you know the problem very well as you have to put up with Muslim terrorists first hand.
Thanks for visiting
Comment by Felis — March 25, 2006 @ 10:44 pm